{"id":59,"date":"2009-10-05T12:47:36","date_gmt":"2009-10-05T12:47:36","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.fact.org\/reading\/?p=59"},"modified":"2012-02-27T14:21:51","modified_gmt":"2012-02-27T14:21:51","slug":"the-dispossessed-mistborn","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.fact.org\/reading\/?p=59","title":{"rendered":"The Dispossessed"},"content":{"rendered":"<h3><em>The Dispossessed <\/em> by Ursula K. Le Guin<\/h3>\n<p>This meeting at the North Village Library drew nine  attendees. Our topic was <em>The Dispossessed<\/em>,   a classic 1974 utopia novel set on the twin planets of Anarres and  Urras. Eight  of us had read Le Guin before. All started the book, and  seven finished it.<\/p>\n<p>Many of us thought this book was slow and difficult to read   initially. One reader <!--more-->found the writing dense and the story hard to get  into,  and she had to set page reading quotas for herself. Another felt  many of the  transitions were jarring, particularly with flashbacks. A  third commented that  the slow pace and unlikeable main character were  disappointing, and he would  have given up after 50 pages if the book  had not won so many awards.<\/p>\n<p>One reader felt the writing was immaculate and worldbuilding   was excellent. He did not think either society depicted in this book  could work  in reality. He enjoyed the problems the author posed and  felt these societies  gave her an interesting way to examine them.<\/p>\n<p>One person said this was a \u201cpure idea book.\u201d Another said   that this book did not contain enough action for his taste; he felt that  little  happened, and \u201cideas were beaten to death. Yet another  commented that it felt  like a book of The Sixties.<\/p>\n<p>It was noted that this book is a member of a rare sf   subgenre, which examines the effects of language on society and society  on  language. It deals with interesting ideas like \u201cHow do you swear  with no  religion and where sex is not dirty?\u201d Among the few other books  in this  subgenre is <em>Babel-17<\/em> by Samuel R.  Delany.<\/p>\n<p>A reader was pleasantly surprised by how well this book   still holds up after thirty-five years. She is still interested in the  ideas  covered in <em>The Dispossessed<\/em>. She does  not find the societies to be utopias, since they are both hard to get along in.<\/p>\n<p>We discussed how the societies in this book reminded us of   things we\u2019d seen elsewhere. One member thought the lunar society was  patterned  after an Israeli kibbutz. Another felt that it was  reminiscent of Cold War  Russia. Another felt the society on one planet  inspired the Centauri world on <em>Babylon 5<\/em>.<\/p>\n<p>One person thought the first 150 pages of this book were a   complete slog, but he ended up enjoying the book. He felt the concept  was  simple: whatever system you set up, people will try to game it. He  felt that  Shevek was an ingrate. He could not publish in his society  and was not treated  well, so he left. The next place he went treated  him well, but he did not give  his invention to them. Instead, he gave  it to aliens he hardly knew.<\/p>\n<p>A member commented that the main character in Le Guin novels   is always atypical for a sf hero: contemplative, and out of step with  their  society. Another said that Shevek reminds him of Gulliver.<\/p>\n<p>One longtime Le Guin fan discussed how the writer\u2019s world   view was informed by anthropology, which was her father\u2019s profession and  her  own. He felt the depiction of Shevek\u2019s life reminded him of real  physicists  like the secretive Isaac Newton. He said that Shevek is a  lens to see the two  societies, and these societies provide a lens  through which we see characters.<\/p>\n<p>Near the end of the meeting, it was noted that this book  defeated <em>The Mote in God\u2019s Eye<\/em> for  the Hugo award. We had an enthusiastic discussion about which  should have won,  with defenders for both books. After we concluded, we  had a nice dinner at  Waterloo Ice House.<\/p>\n<p><em>&#8212;A. T. Campbell, III<\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The Dispossessed by Ursula K. Le Guin This meeting at the North Village Library drew nine attendees. Our topic was The Dispossessed, a classic 1974 utopia novel set on the twin planets of Anarres and Urras. Eight of us had read Le Guin before. All started the book, and seven finished it. 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